A client recently asked me to calculate the ideal cost-per-click (CPC) for their keywords, but unfortunately there is no exact figure. However, you can calculate a very close estimate using your current statistics.

When advertising on paid platforms, such as Google AdWords, you can control the maximum cost-per-click you are willing to pay for each keyword or display ad placement. There are several factors that determine how prominently your ads will show and how well your ad will perform.

Average CPC = Total Costs / Total Clicks |

### Things you can control while performing paid advertising

- The maximum cost-per-click you are willing to spend to get a visitor to your website
- When or where your advert appears
- Which format your ad appears in (text, banner, video, shopping listing, etc.) and it’s content
- Which page of your website the advert will take people towards (the landing page)
- The cost of your products or services on the website (the perceived cost depending on quality and/or service)
- How the website works, looks and interacts with the visitors (how the website converts)

Maximum CPC > Average CPC |

### Things you cannot control while performing paid advertising

- The competition’s maximum cost-per-click amounts (this information is also hidden)
- The competition’s ad content
- The competition’s price for similar products or services
- The conversion rate of a competitor’s website
- The number of times your advert will appear for certain searches or topics (display or keyword traffic)

### Calculating the ideal max CPC amount

After checking out your competition, you’ll need to be sure that you offer your product or service at a competitive price. Because there are likely to be a significant number of people searching for the product or service, you also need to ensure your website is in good shape, so it can convert visitors into customers. All other paid advertising factors are out of your control. The Max CPC values need to be based on **YOUR** website, **YOUR** prices and **YOUR** profit margins, then the advert will be shown at the appropriate ad position, which may be above or below your competitor’s ads.

Google’s calculation for the Actual CPC is based on your set Maximum CPC, Quality Score, and the Ad Rank of competitor ads. The video below cover the basics and explains how lowering your Maximum CPC can result in increased overall profitability:

#### Step 1 – work out what each sale or acquisition is worth to you in profit

When you gain a new customer, work out the average profit made from each new customer.

- Let’s say that you were selling cuckoo clocks online at £120 each and once tax, delivery costs and admin costs were subtracted there was £40 left over. In this case, each cuckoo clock sale is worth £40 in profit.

Single Product Sale Profit = Product Revenue – Product Costs – Internal Costs – Tax |

- Let’s say you sold a monthly subscription to an online fishing magazine at $10/month and the average person kept their subscription for three months. This makes each subscription worth $30 on average.

Average Lifetime Value Per Acquisition = Average Value Per Conversion x Average Number Of Repeat Conversions Per Customer |

- Let’s say that you worked as a painter and each new customer on average spent £400 and used you twice, on average. The costs for paint, tools, transport, and tax for each job comes up to £100 on average. Each new customer brings in profits worth: (£400 – £100) x 2 = £600

Acquisition Profit = Average Lifetime Value Per Acquisition – Internal Costs – Tax |

Remember that whenever you are running an e-commerce website, or a lead generation website, there will be repeat customers and different costs involved. For e-commerce websites there will always be product costs alongside business costs on each sale. For lead generation websites, there might only be one set of upfront costs with relatively low costs for repeat customers. The important thing is to nail down an accurate profit-per-new-customer in each area of your business.

#### Step 2 – for lead generation websites only, figure out the number of leads required per conversion

Lead generation websites will naturally record calls, form submissions or other secondary goals to measure success instead of direct sales. For lead generation websites, it’s important to figure out the number of leads it takes to gain each new customer.

- Let’s say that you were selling £1,000,000 luxury holiday homes and counted each showroom visit request as a conversion. On average, it takes 2,000 separate groups of showroom visitors for each holiday home to be sold. This makes each conversion (lead) worth £1,000,000 / 2,000 = £500

Average Value Per Conversion (Lead Gen.) = Average Sale Value / Average Number Of Leads To Make One Sale |

#### Step 3 – work out your current non-branded conversion rate

The conversion rate is the percentage of visitors that turn into customers. For example, if you make five sales from 100 visitors on average, your conversion rate is: 5 / 100 = 0.05 = 5%.

You may be able to look at existing non-branded PPC campaigns to get an idea of the current conversion rate or organic non-branded keyword reports if you only have search engine traffic data in Google Analytics. If you do accidentally include branded keywords then the conversion rate will appear much more favourable than it actually is, as people are far more likely to convert if they know the brand well. So make sure branded campaigns or keywords are filtered out.

If you have absolutely no conversion data, you need to setup up AdWords conversion tracking, goal tracking or e-commerce tracking depending on your circumstances and wait for data to come in before completing this step.

Average Conversion Rate = Total Number of Conversions / Total Number of Clicks |

#### Step 4 – work out the break-even CPC value

Now that we know what each conversion is worth and how many visitors it takes to make a conversion, we can then figure out the breakeven point where costs equal the profits.

Let’s say each conversion you made generated £10 worth of profit, each customer bought four items on average in their lifetime and on average you made 10 conversions for every 500 unique visitors, this gives:

- Conversion Rate = 10 / 500 = 0.02 = 2%
- Profit per Conversion = £10 x 4 = £40

Simply multiplying the profit per conversion with the conversion rate gives the break even cost per click amount. This is the exact amount you could pay for each visitor to a website and receive the same value back in return on average:

- Break Even CPC = 0.02 x £40 = £0.80

Break-Even CPC = Average Conversion Rate x Average Profit per Conversion |

#### Step 5 – adjust for profitability and actual CPC amounts

It’s imperative that the Max CPC amount is set lower than the break-even CPC amount so that a profit will be made from each sale after advertising costs are considered.

If the Max CPC is set higher than the Break-Even CPC, this will result in a lot of conversions but overall each one will cost more in advertising revenue than it generates in profit, which will, therefore, result in an overall loss.

Lowering the max CPC amount too far will result in a higher return-on-investment (ROI) but a lower the number of sales overall. This is due to Google showing ads with a higher Ad Rank higher up in the results and ads that are higher up get more clicks on average.

Actual cost-per-click amounts tend to be a little lower than set Max CPC amounts as Actual CPCs are based on the Ad Rank of the advertiser below your ad. In our experience, this has a reduction of around 20%. For example, if you set a maximum cost-per-click value of $1.00 then you are likely to spend around $0.80 per click on average, around 20% less.

There is a sweet spot between breaking even and getting a good return-on-investment which can be optimised over time once a significant amount of clicks and sales have been made:

To hit the sweet spot, the bid should be approximately 70% of the Break-Even CPC bid amount (in real life, it’s a little more complex than the simplified graph shown above!). This reduction takes into account of the 20% difference mentioned earlier and places the ads in a profitable but competitive level.

Ideal Max. CPC = Break-Even CPC x 0.70 |

Extracting recent data from our top five biggest spending successful clients (over 1 million clicks within the past 3 months) gives an average of 51% when measuring Average CPC divided by Break Even CPC, which represents a CPC reduction of 49%, a very close match to the rule. The bids are reduced by around 50% to make the ads profitable, while keeping them in a high enough ad position to get a good number of clicks (and therefore conversions) each day. The Max CPC needs to be set at around 20% higher to compensate for the actual CPC difference. The combination of these two changes is approximately 30% of the Break-Even CPC bid amount for the Ideal Max CPC, a multiplication of 0.7.

### Maximum cost-per-click improvements

You may find that after adjusting keywords to the ideal maximum CPC level they are placed in a very low ad position. This may be due to Google AdWords not yet assigning the correct quality score to each keyword, if it’s a new keyword or a keyword with a new advert. In this case, wait a day or two to see if the quality score improves. or sacrifice some profit and raise the ad positions to raise the number of clicks to around 75% of Break Even CPC.

The keyword quality score is directly related to Google’s basic Ad Rank measurement (Ad Rank = Keyword Quality Score x Max. CPC), so a lower quality score will place the ad in a lower position if the Max CPC stays the same.

Several improvements can be made to increase your target Max. CPC amount and therefore generate more profit per month including:

- Improving the quality score of keywords – As mentioned above, a better quality score results in cheaper advertising costs and can justify a higher Max CPC for a keyword. This is based on the relevancy of the keyword, the ad and its landing page. All three need to be in sync to achieve a high quality score.
- Improving the website to raise the conversion rate – Work on lowering the number of visitors needed to make a sale on average by making it easier and more attractive to buy on all devices. Most paid advertising accounts fail because the website simply has such a poor conversion rate so advertising is too expensive.
- Raising the profits per conversion – Prices can be raised, or business costs can be lowered to give a higher profit per conversion if possible. We have seen clients simply charge more for a service or product and the increase in profit per conversion has outweighed the impact on conversion rates allowing bids to be raised to get more sales per day.
- Using Ad Extensions or other methods to take up more space within the ads – Ad extensions also now play a key part in quality score. If you don’t use them Google will slightly raise the advertising costs per click.
- Getting enough reviews for star ratings on Google Ads – Part of the quality score calculation is the click-through-rate of the ads and you can improve this by working towards 150+ good seller ratings on a review website.
- Using bid adjustments to spend less budget on lower converting locations, times or devices and more budget on the better converting locations, times or devices.

### Changing max CPC based on cost-per-acquisition (CPA) and return-on-ad-spend (ROAS) targets

The process of finding the right Max CPC bid level can be simplified if you stick to a set cost-per-conversion (cost-per-acquisition) target for a lead generation website, or a return-on-ad-spend target for ecommerce PPC campaigns.

#### Cost-per-acquisition target (Lead Generation Websites)

The CPA target is basically the amount you are willing to pay for each conversion on your website. It can be combined with the conversion rate to give an Ideal Max. CPC value. A 20% boost is given for the difference between the Max CPC and the Actual CPC:

- Let’s say that you were a local emergency plumber and you are willing to pay Google $20 for each phone call you receive from people looking for an emergency plumber. If your website needs on average 10 people to view before one calls you, the CPA target is £20 and the Conversion rate = 1/10 = 0.1 = 10%. The Ideal Max CPC = 20 x 0.1 x 1.2 = $0.24

Ideal Max. CPC (lead gen) = CPA Target x Average Conversion Rate x 1.2 |

#### Return-on-ad-spend target (ecommerce websites)

The ROAS target is the relationship between product revenue and advertising costs that you are willing to accept. Calculated as the revenue generated from product sales divided by costs from the paid ads:

ROAS = Total Product Revenue / Total Advertising Costs |

Naturally, most advertisers want to spend as little as possible on advertising. They wish to maintain a high ROAS. To raise the ROAS you need to lower the bids to make more profit per sale. Raising the ROAS target too high can result in non-competitive bids which generate very few sales per day, so a balance must be found.

Our clients have a range of different ROAS targets which depend on the profit made in each sale online. Big ticket items such as self-made furniture need a ROAS value of around 4.0 to get the right balance of profit per sale and the number of sales per day. Selling products from other manufactures may require an ROAS of around 7.0 to account for the percentage of profit lost per sale by the manufacturer. Drop-shipping products ads are often highly competitive and require an ROAS target of around 12.0 to account for the low profits of being the cheapest seller online and the percentage of profits paid to the product suppliers.

The Ideal Max. CPC needs to be based off the previous ROAS performance which takes into account the revenue and cost relationship, as well as the average CPC of the account in that time period. A 20% boost is given for the difference between the Max CPC and the Actual CPC:

- Let’s say that you sold garden gnomes online and wanted to get £7 for every £1 spent on advertising. Previously, you’ve got back only £5 for every £1 spent on advertising, when the average cost per click has been £0.60. Therefore, the ROAS target is 7.0, the Average CPC is £0.60 and previously the Average ROAS was 5.0. The Ideal Max. CPC = £0.60 x (5 / 7) x 1.2 = £0.51

Ideal Max. CPC (ecommerce) = Average CPC x (Average ROAS / Target ROAS) x 1.2 |

### Conclusion

You can’t control the Max CPC bids and quality scores of other advertisers but you can place your ads in at a level where they will be profitable at your own ideal Max CPC. The factors which could be holding back profits possibly includes the conversion rate of the website, the product/service price, or the quality score of the keywords.

The basic formula for working out the ideal Max CPC amount for a keyword is:

Ideal Max. CPC (highest profits) = Average Conversion Rate x Average Profit per Conversion x 0.70 |

Ideal Max. CPC (set CPA) = CPA Target x Average Conversion Rate x 1.2 |

Ideal Max. CPC (set ROAS) = Average CPC x (Average ROAS / Target ROAS) x 1.2 |

#### Ideal Max CPC Examples

**Example 1**

Average Profit per Conversion = £25.00

Average Conversion Rate = 2.0% (2 sales for every 100 clicks) = 0.02

Ideal Max. CPC (highest profits) = 25.00 x 0.02 x 0.7 = £0.35

**Example 2**

CPA Target = $80.00 Per Lead (willing to spend $80.00 for each lead)

Average Conversion Rate = 15% (15 leads for every 100 clicks) = 0.15

Ideal Max. CPC (set CPA) = 80.00 x 0.15 x 1.2 = $14.40

**Example 3**

ROAS Target = 12 (aiming to get £12 for every £1 spent)

Average ROAS = 6 (currently getting £6 for every £1 spent)

Average CPC = £0.20 (currently spending £0.20 per click)

Ideal Max. CPC (set ROAS) = 0.20 x (6 / 12) x 1.2 = £0.12

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Interesting article! But where does the 0.9 come from?

Thanks a lot,

elena

Hi Elena,

Thanks for your comment.

There is roughly a difference of 10% from the Maximum Cost Per Click which you set and the Actual Cost Per Click in which you spend. This gives a 10% reduction which equals a multiplication of 0.9 overall.

Thanks,

Jonathan

All of this data seems to confuse the issue for me. Isn’t the best max cpc to use just the lowest possible one that you can figure out which still results in the number of clicks you want to pay for? Thus isn’t the question how to figure out what the lowest number is? You are def an expert on this, but I see little guidance here on that issue, and would love some!!!

Hi Michael,

By adjusting the Maximum CPC on a popular keyword you could get one hundred clicks within a day or one hundred clicks within a month, depending on the average ad position.

Above I’m working out how to get as many clicks as possible per day whilst still ensuring that the advertising is still profitable.

Many thanks,

Jonathan

Hi Jonathan,

I would like to understand for a website which does not sell online but displays products and direct them to their brick & mortar shop how can we calculate the ideal or maximum cpc. Roughly around 700 unique hits per month. Kindly advise.

Thanks

Suresh

Hi Suresh,

You will need to figure out how many visitors it takes on average to make one enquiry to calculate the ideal Max. CPC firstly.

This is great, but what time period do you recommend to use to calculate Conversion rate? My six month conversion rate is about half of my conversion rate this month (I have been working to optimise our Adwords this month).

Great article, really helpful.

Hi Sarah,

Many thanks for your comments.

You will need a significant number of sessions to get an accurate idea of the conversion rate through different channels or on different landing pages. Looking at the previous month only will give you a less accurate view of the conversion rate so it may be higher or lower unless you have a huge volume of visitors within one month.

There’s also seasonal changes that may effect the conversion rates, check Google Trends to see the most popular times for your keywords and look at the conversion rate on analytics within the past few years if possible to see if there are any big seasonal changes.

Thanks Jonathan Ellins, i will keep reading your posts and i really appreciate for helping the business minded people with your latest tactics and strategies.

This is really very interesting article. I get to learn lot of things from it. Thanks.

Thanks for this, Ive read a few pieces on CPA bidding and your insight is appreciated. Particularly mentioning % difference from actual cpc and max cpc.

Where is the .7 and 1.2 coming from?

How does the 70% sweet spot thing work?

You can set the Max CPC at 20% higher than the target CPC due to AdWord’s CPC calculation being based off just outdoing the position below. Spending 100% of profits on ads would make you break even overall so I looked at a number of successful AdWords accounts to see what percentage of profits they spent on ads.

On average our biggest clients set their CPC’s to get their target profitability at around 50% the break even mark. Adding the 20% on to the 50% average gives a 0.7 average target for this calculation but it needs to be slightly raised if margins are good on products sold and vice versa from around 0.95 to 0.5.

With regards to the profit per click graph, why is the line curved instead of linear?

Hi Malcolm, as the Maximum Cost-Per-Click is related to ad position (a higher Max. CPC will result in a higher ad position) then there is a curved relationship between Max. CPC and profits generated.

A relatively low CPC will result in a low ad position and fewer clicks, but when a sale is made there will be a high margin on the profit generated as each click is very cheap.

A relatively high CPC will result in a high ad position and many clicks, but when a sale is made there will be a low profit margin as the advertising costs eat into the profits from the product sale.

It’s possible to raise the Max. CPC so far that there is minus profitability overall, I explain a little more in this post: https://www.hallaminternet.com/using-bid-adjustments-to-increase-profitability/

Thanks, Jonathan

Reporting is essential for both the AdWords campaign managers and the clients.It include date and , which metric to highlight and which graph to visualize the data.

I want to estimate projected impressions for a specific term that is used in over 6 million searches monthly. There are no competitive ads associated with this term. When I use the Google Adwords Tool, if I enter a daily budget of $300, $500 or $1,000 with Google recommending the bid price for the term (which increases for each successive budget level), the Tool projects approximately 12,000 impressions with 600 clicks daily for each of these 3 budgets. How can this be accurate, or am I missing something?

I am little bit confused. .what is x 0.70 and x 1.2 in formula for calculate ideal max cpc and cpa.

Please clear my confusion …Thanks for helpful post

Hi Dilram,

The 1.2 represents a 20% increase in the Max CPC to compensate for the difference in actual CPC. You only spend a penny above the Max CPC of your lower competitor so the Max CPC is always greater than the actual CPC.

The 0.7 represents a rough 20% increase on the 50% of profits that get poured into advertising. If you make £2 for every £10 spent then a good rule of thumb is to spend half your profits back into advertising (£1 in this example).

Amazing article!

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So to make your ideal max CPC (target ROAS) formula even more accurate for my account, could I adjust the 1.2 assumption?

Could I change 1.2 to (historical max cpc bid / actual average cpc bid)?

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I have hundreds of thousands of clicks to base this off of, so it should be pretty accurate.

It would typically end up being about 1.5-2.0 for my account, just because I have so many country, age, gender and device bid adjustments.

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Thank you so much for your help, this article has been a life saver!

Many thanks, Michael, I’m glad this has helped so much!

As mentioned on Twitter the past Max. CPC values are irrelevant, what’s important is just the Avg. CPC and how well each keyword, product group, ad group, etc. performed at that level. Stick to the 1.2 level, this puts around half of your profit into ad costs per sale and gives the best balance of traffic levels and profit per sale/lead.

I can have a quick look at your account if you wish?

Hi,

Great content ! Just a question: what about the ideal max CPC in 2018 when Smart Bidding becomes king in CPC bids.

Now, opposite to some years ago, I take care of the segmentation in ad groups to be able to target a specific ROAS for a specific group of products (1 to many in one ad group).

I also saw that sometimes Google doesn’t show the good product on the good query. Whe the product is in the middle of other products in the same ad group, it’s impossible to know. So for products with many clicks or conversions, it could be great to isolate it in a specific ad group to have more control.

There is no perfect segmentation, just have to test, test test.

Hi Bastien,

I now suggest automating bids based off these formulas in 2018 but to also enable enhanced CPC bidding by Google AdWords.

Enhanced CPC bids works alongside manual CPC bidding to boost or lower bids based off user data behind the scenes, we’ve seen some good improvements after combining automation with eCPC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eucZVCULdE&t=0s&list=PLqOXmIV-ftAoZqb2vCe7zQPs4lv2bf6Vi&index=3

With Google Shopping, you can have separate ad groups for each product but we have found this only works if you have a huge amount of traffic towards a very small product range. Otherwise, you can filter search queries in shopping based off intent, I explain that in this article well: https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2017/03/23/shopping-campaign-optimization

Thanks, Jonathan

Great article. But I’ve searched the whole web for this question, but didn’t find anything. Let’s say I create a new AdWords campaign for a client with manual CPC bids. How do I set the manual CPC properly without any data? I usually set it too low and then I see which ads aren’t shown on first page, then I put a higher max. cpc for important keywords.

Is there a good solution on how to really know how to set a bid without any data? Maybe a stupid question but I just don’t get it to be honest.

Thanks in advance.

Hi James,

You can see an estimate of average cost-per-clicks by using Google’s Keyword Planner once logged into an AdWords account.

Another solution would be to utilise Google’s automated bidding system to maximise the number of clicks for your set daily budget to see how many clicks you could get ideally. Once enough conversion data has been collected then change the automated bidding to target CPA or target ROAS depending if you are measuring leads or transactions.

All the best,

Jonathan

Adset A has CTR 2%, Adset B has CTR 3% and Adset C has CTR 4.5%. Given the CPM is $20.. What is the CPC of the adset with the cheapest clicks?

If we assume an equal split between Adsets and a CPM budget matching exactly a CPC target then that’s $0.44 CPC

Trying to use this against a CPA model, = CPA Target x Average Conversion Rate x 1.2.. On terms that have converted under CPA it is giving astronomical CPC’s. This calculation doesn’t take into consideration avg position etc, how do you account for this? Or do you just apply this equation to terms that are currently over CPA?

Hi Jonny,

How are you getting such high CPCs? Typical conversion rates go from 0.5% to 3%, which is 0.005 to 0.3 in the calculation.

Average position is not relevant if you have a target CPA, the target CPA determines how high the ad will show. Naturally, the target CPA might be too low if it places all ads on page two of the results.

Thanks for this detailed explanation on calculating MAX CPC. Though technical stuff, but was good to know and understand the calculations for concluding on MAX CPC bid.

Hi Jonathan, excellent article (even now in 2019 it holds water). I’m still grappling with the 70% rule though, shouldn’t it be 60%?

e.g. if breakeven CPC is £2 then peak profits come at a target CPC of £2 x 0.5 = £1. Then ideal max CPC would be target CPC £1 x 1.2 = £1.20, which is 60% of breakeven CPC (1.2/2), as opposed to the 70% rule of thumb. What am I missing?

Hi Simon, thanks for the kind words!

Looking back at the calculations I think 60% would be more suitable as the gap between max. CPC and actual CPC seems to be tightening since 2017 going into 2019. It originally was a +20% estimate on top of the 50% margin but I tend to use between +5% to +10% these days on my bid automation scripts.

What do you do if your profit is only $5.00 per unit, and the product is a one shot deal… No long term value for the consumer. It means that we may never be able to use Adwords?

Hi Elise,

You can certainly use Google Ads still, just put a zero in the lifetime value calculation and just use the immediate profit generated per sale.

Best Regards,

Jonathan

One question:

“Let’s say that you were selling £1,000,000 luxury holiday homes and counted each showroom visit request as a conversion. On average, it takes 2,000 separate groups of showroom visitors for each holiday home to be sold. This makes each conversion (lead) worth £1,000,000 / 2,000 = £500”

This is the only point at which you talk about a conversion (lead) worth in terms of revenue instead of profit. To correctly use this £500 figure in the next step when calculating the BreakEven CPC, would you not first need to consider the profit margin on the £1,000,000 sale. If the profit margin on a £1,000,000 home is say 10% for example, then you should use £500 x 0.1 = £50 as the Profit Per Conversion Value when calculating the BreakEven CPC calculation, as I understand it at least?

Unless of course the £1,000,000 is the profit on the sale, then £500 is correct.

The article is excellent, but this part was not completely clear to me.

Hi Nathan,

That’s spot on, you would take the profit margin percentage from the revenue and use that in your calculations. To go one step further you should add in your business costs also which is a little harder to calculate as you would have to spread monthly or quarterly business costs and divide that across all products sold to get a business-cost-per-sale value which removes some of your profit margins.

I wrote a blog on WordStream about this topic, see: https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2019/03/06/increase-ppc-profits

Thanks Jonathan,

This is gold and appreciate the detailed explainations and calculations.

Ideal Max. CPC (highest profits) = Avg Conv Rate x Avg Profit per Conversion x 0.70

1) Does Avg Profit per Conversion include the cost of ads? (i.e. CPA)

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In comments you said you now use btwn +5% to +10% instead of +20%

So instead of 0.7 to use btwn 0.55-0.6.

2) In that case do we multiply by 1.1 instead of 1.2 to accomodate for axtra 10% of CPC instad of 20% in this formula below?

Ideal Max. CPC (set CPA) = CPA Target x Avg Conv Rate x 1.2

Thanks!

Thanks for your praise!

To answer your questions:

1) This profit doesn’t include the ad costs, they are factored in later on

2) Yes, lower this figure to 1.1 or I now use 5% over (1.05)

Awesome thanks for confirming!

1) Since you’re using +5% (1.05) now, is it because Google now adhears more accurately towards the max cpc set?

2) In that case, for this formula – do you also set it to x 0.55 instead of x 0.70?

Ideal Max. CPC (highest profits) = Avg Conv Rate x Avg Profit per Conversion x 0.70

– Where 55% = 50% (bid reduction for profit) + 5% (cpc difference)

– Instead of 70% = 50% (profit) + 20% (cpc difference)

Is my understanding correct?

Any time!

1) It’s probably the rise of competition and the use of automatic bidding that has decreased the gap between Max. CPC and Actual CPC.

2) 0.55 would be correct if we presume a +5% difference, a lot has changed since I first wrote this article!

Check out my recent posts for tips to optimise further after bid optimisation: https://www.hallaminternet.com/team/jonathan-ellins/

Thanks Jonathan,

Which articles do you recommend? There’s so many!

Anyone relating to bid optimisation and cpcs to support this article?

Hi Aim,

This is all common sense really and Google is very much pushing people to use their smart bidding solutions which are now at the point where performance from them is good enough to rely on (for standard accounts).

Going beyond ideal CPCs, the next step is to optimise for ROI or profitability based on real-world data, see my WordStream post here on the topic: https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2019/03/06/increase-ppc-profits

Question from Adrian below (from email):

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Optimizing for CPC in the way you describe is very difficult because it forces one to update the conversion rate very often since it changes constantly and the average conversion will also be impacted of course.

My main concern is having to update every cell in Google Sheet, which is time-consuming, do you have any recommendation of which tools that can be used so everything is being done automatically? Extract data from Analytics, or how do you do it in your Agency?

Isn’t a better approach to convert your margins (and CLV) to ROAS for each product and then bid towards maximum ROAS (for example having a ROAS that equals 35% of margins)?

My main issue here is how much to lower/raise the bid, since its not an exact science when working with ROAS.

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– At Hallam we manage bids automatically with Google Ads Scripts. Each hour a script collects key metrics such as clicks, cost, revenue and conversions. This script then uses the formulas mentioned in this article to calculate the ideal maximum cost-per-click bid and automatically applies them to a keyword, ad group or product group: https://www.hallaminternet.com/how-calculate-ideal-maximum-cpc-adwords/

– We often split products into different margin groups so we can adjust the ROAS target to maximise profitability, I go into this topic in more detail on this blog post: https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2017/03/23/shopping-campaign-optimization

– It’s not an exact science so we tend to only place higher bids once we have a lot of clicks and conversions to go on. For example, the more confident we are of a result, the higher the maximum CPC can rise compared to the average CPC, the key is to bid with caution and ramp things up in the future.

Many thanks for your question, Adrian!

Thank you for the reply Jonathan!

From all the PPC experts out there, you really stand out in terms of detail, accuracy and “genuinity” if thats even a word!

I have 2 more questions if you dont mind.

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1. Are you able to show the most effecient way of converting ROI (Margins) to ROAS if i was to try to automate this myself to start with?

There are many tools out there that can “automate” things, and i seem to stumble upon the following calculcation which I dont quite understand.

Are you able to elaborate and shed some light on the following calculation and why it is being used in many automation tools.

(Conv. value/Clicks)*(1/Target ROAS (1))

In this case its basically Value Click * ?

2. I usually have the following workflow when working with my PPC-campaigns/product group/keywords:

– I check the Conversion value

– I check the CPA (see if its not too high for a specific product)

– I check the Impression share and Top impression share (to see whether or not there is more room to bid higher or lower (i use try to target 85+ impression share if the campaign is doing well)

– Then adjust the bid 10-20% up/down depending on the outcome for the metrics above.

Could you give me your feedback on the workflow and also how exactly could i automate it? (I will be working with ROAS i assume, since margin cant be translated directly in a script?).

Thanks for the kind words Adrian 🙂

There are a few ways people define the term ROI, which way are you defining it?

For ROAS it’s simply (revenue / cost) but to get the true margin we need to factor in a lot of other costs, see my top chart on https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2019/03/06/increase-ppc-profits

Perhaps send me your numbers and I can calculate?

We can calculate bids based towards a target CPA or towards a target ROAS amount, for CPA is simply:

Ideal bid = 1.1 * Conversion Rate * Target CPA

To automate it you can use Google Editor to import all of the keywords, calculate all bids and then upload the new bids at once.

Still, this takes an hour or so, with a script you can do this less than a minute but it requires JavaScript knowledge and maintenance.

If you work with a top impression share then Google will likely control the bids themselves, it’s best to use target CPA or maximise conversions/value if allowing Google to automate bids.